F1 - Malaysian GP 2009

[DooberRoni]

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After a dramatic and exciting season opener in Melbourne, we're back just a week later with another fly-away race in the middle of the night. Will the Brawn GP cars dominate again? Can we expect the Ferrari's to finish? Will there be as much action, carnage and controversy. It's F1, of course!

2008 Results
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Courtesy of wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Malaysian_Grand_Prix)

Stay tuned for more and join us live for qualifying and the race

[ÜberDoober]

Uh Oh! Hamilton getting called to the principal's office to discuss the Trulli incident again.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74137

It's also looking like they might have to deal with RAIN! Won't that be interesting with Kers, and all? There's also some talk that if it is dry, that Bridgestone's new soft compound tire has never been tried at this track and it is likely to be the issue of the weekend?

Plenty of stories to pick from on our uptown web page at DooberVille Formula 1 (http://www.dooberville.com/formula1.htm).

Hey! Nice graphic! :winky:

[rixracer]

You would think that each driver and at least one person on each team's crew would have a solid knowledge of the rules. Lewis should have scooted on by and never looked back. And Trulli should have known not to pass Hamilton. There should have been some side-by-side driving at low speed until sorted, hand gestures no extra charge.

I know if I was an F1 driver, I'd know every stinking rule for every possible situation. :smilielol5:

[HeadDoober]

I know if I was an F1 driver, I'd know every stinking rule for every possible situation. :smilielol5:

Ain't that the truth.

Hamilton was quoted by SpeedTV as saying: "I was behind Trulli under the safety car, and clearly you're not allowed to overtake under the safety car. But he went off in the second to last corner, he went wide on the grass, I guess his tyres were cold. And I was forced to go by. I slowed down as much as I could. I was told to let him back past, but I mean... I don't know if that's the regulations, and if it isn't, then I should have really had third."

The issue is that Hamilton said the team told him to let Trulli back by. The FIA stewards supposedly have new evidence that is assumed to be McLaren's radio conversations and if it is determined that Hamilton wasn't completely truthful, there may be sanctions against him.

Maybe in a few months, the results from Melbourne will be final. :ack2:

PS
Welcome to DooberVille, rixracer. Thanks for signing up and since we know who you are, we promoted you to full Doober status thereby avoiding all the Noober Doober bullshiat restrictions that we've got to keep out the spamming bastards.

[rixracer]

Apparently, time flies! They have stripped Hamilton of all points and DQ'd him for "not being forthcoming with evidence" regarding Yarno.
Toyota get 3rd place back, and instead of getting fourth, Lewis gets no points at all.

F1 should get their act together. Two wrongs don't make a right.:blink:

[rixracer]

Looks like Hamilton knew the right stuff, but Charlie screwed him up...

Radio transmissions:Lewis Hamilton: The Toyota went off in a line at the second corner, ..., is this OK?

Team: Understood, Lewis. We’ll confirm and get back to you.

LH: He was off the track. He went wide.

Team: Lewis, you need to allow the Toyota through. Allow the Toyota through now.

LH: OK.

LH: He’s slowed right down in front of me.

Team: OK, Lewis. Stay ahead for the time being. Stay ahead. We will get back to you. We are talking to Charlie.

LH: I let him past already.

Team: OK, Lewis. That’s fine. That’s fine. Hold position. Hold position.

LH: Tell Charlie I already overtook him. I just let him past.

Team: I understand Lewis. We are checking. Now can we go to yellow G 5, yellow Golf 5.

LH: I don’t have to let him past I should be able to take that position back, if he made a mistake.

Team: Yes, we understand Lewis. Let’s just do it by the book. We are asking Charlie now. You are in P4. If you hold this position. Just keep it together.

Team: OK Lewis, your KERS is full, your KERS is full. Just be aware. You can go back to black F2, black Foxtrott 2.

LH: Any news from Charlie whether I can take it back or not.

Team: Still waiting on a response Lewis, still waiting.

Ron Dennis would never make this mistake!:mad:

[ÜberDoober]

Well, isn't that the shits. I also read that there may be even further sanctions against McLaren?

"During the hearing, held approximately one hour after the end of the race, the Stewards and the Race Director questioned Lewis Hamilton and his Team Manager David Ryan specifically about whether there had been an instruction given to Hamilton to allow Trulli to overtake," the FIA said in a statement.

"Both the driver and the team manager stated that no such instruction had been given.

"The race director specifically asked Hamilton whether he had consciously allowed Trulli to overtake. Hamilton insisted that he had not done so."
The FIA added that both in radio communications and in an interview after the race, it was clear that McLaren had instructed Hamilton to let Trulli through.The "team" told Hamilton two different things. First they told him to let Trulli through (wrongo) they they told him to stay ahead but Hamilton had already let the Toyota by. Maybe LuHam thought the two conflicting orders cancelled each other out?

Team: Lewis, you need to allow the Toyota through. Allow the Toyota through now.

LH: OK.

LH: He's slowed right down in front of me.

Team: OK, Lewis. Stay ahead for the time being. Stay ahead. We will get back to you. We are talking to Charlie.

LH: I let him past already.

I don't want to say that McLaren deliberately lied during the first inquiry but there was a lot of confusion happening right then plus the fact that even Charlie Whiting was so busy he couldn't answer. At the time, I thought Trulli's penalty was bull because Hambone clearly did let him by but I didn't expect McLaren to get anything other than 4th place back and not be thrown out completely. :ack2:


Oh the drama! I think it's all Ferrari's fault. :winky:

[ÜberDoober]

Reminder! Practice is on SPUUDtv tonight/morning.

I wasn't going to stay up because I have to be up early for work tomorrow but since it does come on at 11:00pm Pacific time, I'm going to watch just to see what the three amigos have to say about this whole schlemozzle.

[rixracer]

I'll watch it with you. I usually also run the live timing feature from the official F1 site at the same time.:winky:

[ÜberDoober]

I'll watch it with you.

Cool! You bringing the beer and donuts? :D

I usually also run the live timing feature from the official F1 site at the same time.:winky:

I usually do to but I had some problems with it last week. I don't use it for qualifying because SPEED's "live" broadcast is 15-20 minutes tape delayed. I don't know about tonight, but all things F1 and Indycar usually bring out our top Doober, LittleAlguy, who hops on and posts in real time. I'd be surprised to see him tonight though since he's in New York and it will be 2:00am there.

Granted, I will be up and online at 2:00am tomorrow night for qualifying and at 1:30 on Saturday for the race but after all, it's only practice tonight. I missed a couple of practices last season myself but made every qually and race live broadcast. When you consider I do the same thing with MotoGP and their live subscription video service, I spend a lot of the summer up at 3:00 or 4:00am. Gawd, I must be nuts? :ack2:

Now that I think about it, I think I'll go take a nap. Enough of this working crap today.

[LittleAlguy]

I just saw the re-revised results. While I was shocked at first, I did have a feeling that Lewis would have been the one to have initially gotten a penalty instead of Jarno. That it came about THIS way and be total exclusion is unexpected.

Reading that conversation between Hammy and McLaren reminds me of most of my cell phone convos. :rofl:

[rixracer]

What kind of donuts go with beer? I'm still pissed at Hamilton's team for being so stupid! But why lie about it? If they told the truth, perhaps they would have been awarded third, and Trulli fourth. Instead, they totally screw McLaren. I blame the team, not the Hamster, but it's a team sport...
:ack2: "Choke!"

[ÜberDoober]

Results up from first practice. Pretty much like Melbourne.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g223/EKron/MaylasiaP1.jpg

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Any further questions?

[ÜberDoober]

Checking in. 11:00pm in sunny Arizona that is really on Mountain time but doesn't do daylight savings so we are the same as California (Pacific).

Almost didn't make it. Got some new work stuff come in and decided to get a head start. Billed 1.75 hours! Ha! It's things I love doing (network servers) so no complaints!

So, the boys on SPEED seem genuinely stunned at recent events and seem to think the whole diffusergate saga may change the standings yet again AFTER they've run a few more races.

They also said the British press has demonized Hamilton as a liar and a cheat. That sucks but I think he'll recover. Damn, what is it with McLaren? After last year's Stepneygate, you'd think they'd keep their nose pretty clean? Oh well. Hamilton will still win races this year.

They're showing replays of all the spins and offs in P1. Ferrari with a Kers battery failure and lots of smoke in the cockpit. Scary! Wonder how long before somebody is going to get killed from Kers?

Anyhow..back to the show...

[ÜberDoober]

45 minutes to go and it looks like one helluva thunderstorm is moving in.

Oooo! Got a good pic of the diffusers. Somebody tell Matchett to put the telistrator down.


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27 minutes left. Massa and Kimi on top! It looks like the rain might miss? I'm packing it in for the night, Doobers, and am going to watch the rest of practice in a horizontal position. Catch you all on Friday. :winky:

Ooops! 22 left to go and Fisi bins it. Check it out LuHam in 18th.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g223/EKron/fisiCrash.jpg

That's really it. I'm watching the rest in bed.

[ÜberDoober]

ALONSO, YOU LITTLE BIYOTCH!

I actually used to like Fred when he was at Renault but lost all respect for him when he went to McLaren. Now the headlines today are that Alonso is coming out and saying that McLaren has lied to the stewards before in Hungary when he and Hamilton had their big falling out.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74209

Just STFU and drive Fernando. It's water under the bridge and there's no need to open your mouth about Lewis' current problems. Mind your own business, mate. Maybe his ear infection is affecting his brain?

[Pablo]

All sports have whiners but the best ones are in the highest paid positions. If you're not doing well - blame someone else. The world, unfortunately, has worked that way for a long time.
F1 is turning into the best soap opera on TV...and then there's the AMA...
Thanks for the invite Liz - great site and another place to vent :cheers2:

[LittleAlguy]

Here we go, qualifying begins (live on tape delay)!

For those wondering about me being up, yes, I'm crazy. :willy_nilly:

[LittleAlguy]

Wow, 1:34.7 for Trulli. One last gasp for those near or below the bubble including the Bimmers.

[LittleAlguy]

MASSA OUT IN Q1!! :ack2: Either a problem from Ferrari or a terrible miscalculation of conditions.

edit: Buemi with a pretty funny (and sad) radio transmission. He went off with a couple of corners left on his last hot lap. NOO!

[ÜberDoober]

Oh poop! I just woke up and hope it isn't over. Oh cool! It's just the start of Q2.

[LittleAlguy]

Wow, so they did make a mistake on their strategy.

[LittleAlguy]

The McLarens miss Q3 again along with Heidfeld, Nakajima, and Bourdais.

[ÜberDoober]

ARRRggghhh! :ack2::ack2::ack2::ack2::ack2: Mah Internets just went offline. Been having problems the last two mornings.

Man, this is pretty nuts and kind of sad for McLaren.
Man, this is pretty nuts and kind of sad for Massa.

[LittleAlguy]

Back-to-back poles for Jense.

Grid will need some reworking with the penalties to Barrichello and Vettel.

[ÜberDoober]

I dropped offline again, dammit. I'm starting a new racing league in the morning, well, later in the morning (8:00am). It did this up/down thing yesterday too until about 10:00 then was fine until I went to bed at 11:00.

It is strange seeing so many different drivers in the interview room but I like it. It should be another good race tomorrow.

[LittleAlguy]

Apparently, it's a conspiracy that McLaren is struggling for pace. Now, I've sometimes wondered about the goings on in F1 but I don't see the nefarious explanation for the fact that they don't have enough rear grip.*

*Granted, I'm no F1 technical expert.

Oops there, Bob.

Wait, another penalty maybe?

[ÜberDoober]

What is going on. Will race results ever be final again in this season of penalty after penalty after stewards inquiry? It's crazy.

Hahaha! Just did an Internet speed test - 800mbps down. I checked it 4 times yesterday after it started working and was at 20,000 to 23,000 down. Oops, my modem lights just went off again. I'd be happy with 800 down. :realMad:

I'm going back to bed before I whine any more. See ya tomorrow!

[ÜberDoober]

Fuel loads and provisional grid order for the race:

Below is the provisional grid for Malaysia with each car's weight. Note - Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel has dropped from third to 13th after his 10-place penalty from last weekend’s Australian race, while Brawn GP’s Rubens Barrichello drops from fourth to eighth after his Friday gearbox change.

1. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 660kg
2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 656.5
3. Timo Glock, Toyota, 656.5
4. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 656
5. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 656
6. Robert Kubica, BMW-Sauber, 663
7. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 662.5
8. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn, 664.5
9. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 680.5
10. Nick Heidfeld, BMW-Sauber, 692
11. Kazuki Nakajima,Williams, 683.4
12. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 688
13. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 647
14. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 688.9
15. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 670.5
16. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 689.5
17. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 681.9
18. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 680.5
19. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 655.5
20. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 686.5

It looks like Raikkonen and Massa have some way different strategy. Vettel was lighter than everybody and Hamilton and Kovalaine, .9 different. Should be good and I'll be up at 1:30 to watch it and won't be late this time. Just hope my connection holds out so I can be online too. :willy_nilly:

[rixracer]

I tried to watch the Q, but fell asleep! Luckily, I recorded it and watched it this morning before running the Formula Nippon sim race at Watkins Glen.:coolshades:
I'll try to stay awake this coming morning for the race, but it's tough...:cheers2:

Looks like rain in Malaysia as we speak! Here's the info from The Weather Network:
Weather Forecast: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Current Weather Updated: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 14:00 CST - Kuala Lumpur

Kuala Lumpur, MY
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75°F
Thunderstorm


Feels Like (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=myxx0008&pagecontent=feelslike): 95
Wind (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=myxx0008&pagecontent=wind): SW 6m/h



Relative Humidity (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=myxx0008&pagecontent=relativehumidity): 94%
Pressure (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=myxx0008&pagecontent=pressure): 1,009.00 mb http://www.theweathernetwork.com/common/images/wicons/pressure3.gif
Visibility (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=myxx0008&pagecontent=visibility): 3.7 miles
Ceiling (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=myxx0008&pagecontent=ceiling): 27000 ft

[LittleAlguy]

Great start by Rosberg and Alonso. Kubica bogged it badly. Button gets around Alonso.

Kovalainen is done.

Kubica's car with a fire and he's through.

[LittleAlguy]

Heidfeld has a moment allowing Vettel and Hamilton past.

[LittleAlguy]

Trulli, Rosberg, Button, and Barrichello trading fastest sector and lap times.

edit: Alonso getting wicked once again.

Vettel is praying for a dry stint right now.

[LittleAlguy]

Raikkonen taking a big gamble. Full wets. He's crawling now.

[LittleAlguy]

Here comes the bum rush! :ack2:

edit: heh, this Hamilton, Webber dice is pretty cool even though they're going about 25 seconds slower than they did earlier

[LittleAlguy]

Hamilton with engine trouble?

Glock's crew made a great call it seems. They learned from Brazil last year. :p

On the other hand, the rain is said to be coming down harder. Who the heck knows?

[LittleAlguy]

Game over Vettel. It's now pouring.

Safety car. It's just way too wet to drive safely. Hopefully, no shenanigans go on during this SC period.

Red flag out. Suspended race.

[ÜberDoober]

MY MODEM JUST CAME UP!

Have no idea if it will stay up and it is running very slow but Woo Hoo!

I'm thinking it's probably over? :ack2:

[LittleAlguy]

If they do resume, I don't think they'll get more than a couple of laps in and even fewer at "speed".

[LittleAlguy]

Race over. Back-to-back wins for Jenson. Half points awarded!

[rixracer]

Be careful what you wish for. Vettel was wishing for rain in the post-Q interview, and he got it. Then he got beached!
I wanted rain also, just not as much as was supplied. I wanted them to compete in the wet, not get shut down! If the cars are only an inch off the surface, and there's two inches of water on the track, that's not gonna work.:blink:

[ÜberDoober]

Sorry guys. I see my post last night did go through. I really didn't think it made it. Things seem to be back up this morning but I'm calling my cable company again this morning and raising hell.

What a race, eh? Since I couldn't post here except for my one lucky pip, I posted to myself in Notepad. Here's what I got:

- Rain in 15 minutes
- Here come the lights!
- Kubica stalls
- Rosberg gets the holeshot
- Kovalainen in the kitty liter - Crap
- Sky is looking really dark
- Kovi just lost it without help - sad
- No front wing for Buemi - in for a change
- Kubica's car is on fire
- Alonso holding up Barrichello
- Barrichello tries to dive past and goes wide
- He gets Alonso braking into the next turn and starts to gap
- Rosberg & Trulli still leading the Brawn cars
- Block with damage to his front wing
- The sky is looking really ominous
- Man, I miss talking with you guys. My Internet hasn't connected even once
- Raikkonen around Alonso into 5th
- Alonso, Glock, Webber and now Vettel nose to tail in a battle
- Vettel to the pits
- Boy if the rain doesn't come before everybody stops, they'll all be back in
- Cookies and milk at 2:30am
- Multiple stops are taking place
- Button closing on Trulli for the lead but both have to pit
- Trulli in. Button to the lead and stays out for another lap
- Button with fastest lap
- KIMI IN AND GOING WITH WETS!
- Button in and going with drys
- Kimi will be so screwed if it doesn't start raining
- Ruebens in and going with softs. Almost stalls but comes out behind Trulli
- Damn commercials
- Here is the rain! Alonso in the gravel
- Button back in from the lead
- Everybody in for tires
- Hamilton hasn't stopped yet! Big advantage
- Kimi's tires are shot. He switched too soon
- Contrails off the rear wings. I love that!
- Webber and Hamilton dicing back and forth
- Vettel making progress
- Uh oh. Hamilton on the radio saying he can't hit redline
- Glock is smoking everyone on intermidiates
- Button with an 18 second lead - commercial again
- Hamilton in again and on to intermediates
- Barrichello slips and loses a few positions
- Button with a 25 second lead but Glock 3 seconds a lap faster
- So many stops I can't keep up
- Trulli is ahead of Button. Trulli pits
- It is really pouring now. Everybody on inters back in for full wets
- Vettle is off. Major downpour
- Button to full wets and maintains the lead
- SAFETY CAR!!!!!
- Button, Glock Heidfeld, Webber, Hamilton, Rosberg
- RED FLAG!!!
- Everybody is spinning everywhere
- Race is stopped. I don't even know what happens but everybody is scrambling
- My modem connected!!!!! It took 5 minutes but I logged into the forum!!!!
- Tried to post but it isn't working. Modem lights went out again. What a tease!
- They said Button has made 4 pit stops
- The weather does look like it's clearing off?
- Okay, just call the damn thing already
- It's cold in here tonight. I'm going to watch the rest, if there is a rest, in bed under my blankie
- Kimi appears to be out?

Once again, I got lots of catching up to do but will be back with more later.

[ÜberDoober]

Wasn't that something? :ack2: Only half points for the race and the shortest GP in 18 years. It was truely a flood.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g223/EKron/verywet.jpg

PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS

The Malaysian Grand Prix
Sepang, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia;
56 laps; 310.408km;
Weather: Sunny, then wet.

Classified:

Pos Driver Team Time
1. Button Brawn GP (B) 55:30.622
2. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) + 22.722
3. Glock Toyota (B) + 23.513
4. Trulli Toyota (B) + 46.173
5. Barrichello Brawn GP (B) + 47.360
6. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) + 52.333
7. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) + 60.733
8. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) + 71.576
9. Massa Ferrari (B) + 76.932
10. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) + 102.164
11. Alonso Renault (B) + 109.422
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) + 116.130
13. Piquet Renault (B) + 116.731
14. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) + 142.841
15. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) + 1 lap
16. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) + 1 lap
17. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) + 1 lap
18. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) + 2 lap

Fastest lap: Button, 1:36.641

Not classified/retirements:

Driver Team On lap
Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1
Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 0